Curse

zwei2stein · Dec 27, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Lykan

/notsigned

r1 wammos wont learn anything fighting other wammos with heal breeze

Yes they would. They would learn that running something better nets them much better chance to win. And in really illustrative way, since better builds are so much better they would really stand out.

yum · Dec 28, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Yes they would. They would learn that running something better nets them much better chance to win. And in really illustrative way, since better builds are so much better they would really stand out.

err no, after 2 wammos smacking each other, they say "GG"

undeadgun · Dec 28, 2007, 04:21 AM // 04:21

/Not sighed
r1 iway or sway
r3-5 iway or sway
r6-r8 iway or sway
if you want to fix HA, fix the Meta crap 1st

Tyla · Dec 28, 2007, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by undeadgun

r1 iway or sway
r3-5 iway or sway
r6-r8 iway or sway
if you want to fix HA, fix the Meta crap 1st

QFT.
Lame builds full of fail and noskill....fail!

Liberations · Dec 28, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Use something like the Xbox Live TrueSkill rankings as well as the system they have now. Better yet use ELO rankings/ratings for each individual character (guilds too maybe?).

I don't see something like this in GW 1, but I do see it possible in GW 2.

tehshadowninjar · Dec 28, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Not sure if this was mentioned... (don't feel like reading alot), but it would be nice if people rank 0-2 fought each other until you got rank 3, and then so on. It'd be easier for people that have a good HA build or team ideal build to try out HA instead of sitting there for 30+ mins trying to get someone nice enough to let in an unranked person -_-

Tyla · Dec 28, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48

Shadow, it'll be WAITING 30+ minutes then...

halcyonbiscuit · Dec 28, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

/signed for the noobs.
I'm one of them

willypiggy · Dec 28, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I'm rank 1 with about 40 fame and i'm gonna /notsign this. My reason is that I love the challenge. If Rank 0-2 were fighting each other how would a rank 2 get experience of playing rank 12's? When I get rank 3 I will be proud that I have my emote, even if it is only in some players eyes 'Babmi' I know that I have played against/with high ranked players and put all my effort in. This will also encourage Smurfing (although it will be less popular) If you are serious about HA then you should put the effort in and work towards it. Get on some peoples friends lists or join a HA guild. If you play enough and you are good then people will notice you and add yo uto there friend list.

Dronte · Dec 28, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

/notsigned
It'd screw up everything tbh.
Just learn how to lose ^^

Likelytodie · Dec 28, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

/not signed, it's fine the way it is

Kanyatta · Dec 29, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

What if you're a lowly r3 with your r9 friends?

As I have said many times before, Rank really doesn't determine skill at the game, it just determines how much time you've put into the game.

Anyone who knows how to play the game ever watch the "good" (read: R12+) players in HoH obs mode? They screw up a lot more than some r6 or lower players that I know.

thedeadlyassassin · Dec 29, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by RotteN

sure, if you remove all PvE titles aswell then, and why not do away with obsidian armor aswell then ?

seriously, people worked hard to earn high ranks, just as much as people work hard to get high KoaBD ranks. Taking that away would be retarded.

every time HA discussions come up, there's always someone saying "remove rank". It won't happen, it's not even remotely an option imo (and no, i don't even have a high rank, i barely play tombs)

I'd disagree, in PvP you have a chance of vsing noobs, charr in HM don't get any easier at all.

anonymous · Dec 29, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

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Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin

I'd disagree, in PvP you have a chance of vsing noobs, charr in HM don't get any easier at all.

You are missing the point. People put time into getting the rank title. People put time into PvE titles. If you take away the PvP titles because of whiny PvErs, you better take away the PvE titles too. And besides PvE is really easy if you don't fail. All you have to do is spend time.

Viruzzz · Dec 29, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

What if you're a lowly r3 with your r9 friends?

As I have said many times before, Rank really doesn't determine skill at the game, it just determines how much time you've put into the game.

Anyone who knows how to play the game ever watch the "good" (read: R12+) players in HoH obs mode? They screw up a lot more than some r6 or lower players that I know.

Exactly what i'm thinking. Rank has nothing to do with skill, it's not a ranked system of how much you win/lose, it is a title that can only progress, if you play enough and win rarely you will eventually get top rank.

Tyla · Dec 29, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by Viruzzz

Exactly what i'm thinking. Rank has nothing to do with skill, it's not a ranked system of how much you win/lose,

QFT.
zergway is full of fail, overused and gets people titles anyway...
much like the tank 'n' spank strategy still used today, WITHOUT PVE SKILLS
the last thing HA needs is clash of the zergs, because it will roll bad player under r3 who actualy want to learn to play instead of farmfarmfarm

Selket · Dec 29, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Which means...there's going to be 20 minute waits for matches! Even without a tiered system, there is plenty of no opposing party. No need to make the wait worse. Plus, all it does is make it so people who get to r3 got it by beating randomways. That just makes player skill even worse.

It means we all make japanese free trial accounts to farm HA drops with semidecent builds :P

Div · Dec 29, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by Selket

It means we all make japanese free trial accounts to farm HA drops with semidecent builds :P

And we'll skip to HoH after one game because no one else is playing between our win and the halls timer and proceed to get rolled by the r3-5 tier because they're too good

Kanyatta · Dec 30, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by undeadgun

fix the Meta crap 1st

But then you'll ruin the entire thing people have done in HA since the beginning!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ViMway~~~~~~~~~~~~~
----------------Gone, but not forgotten-------------

VexedLucifer · Dec 30, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

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Originally Posted by undeadgun

/Not sighed
r1 iway or sway
r3-5 iway or sway
r6-r8 iway or sway
if you want to fix HA, fix the Meta crap 1st

This is the most intellegent thing I ve ever seen anyone else on Guru post over three years.

Also low ranked people will always be discriminated against. It happened to me, it happens to everyone. Suck it up run a balanced and get fame. Or run Sway and Iway and be flamed I don't care. But to split up the ranks would mean.
R1=Randomway.
R2-8=Sway or Iway or Rspike or Zergway or Packhunters.
R9-11=Most likely a balanced heaven.

R12+=Leeloof vs GANK

After sway and Iway are gone, what's left?(No really I can only think of Rspike which is easy to beat)

/grabs it rips it up and burns it.

PvErs shouldn't whine about PvP titles unless they are willing to lose their PvE titles